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The Pew Research survey was released on July 18.  Despite Obama’s push for evangelical votes and the support he has gained evangelicals like Tony Campolo, he is polling in line with Sen. John Kerry and below Vice President Al Gore.  Any theories on why?  For the full report, click here.

Pew Research on Evangelical Votes

I’ve found a lot of arguments over the years actually boil down to economics.  Unfortunately, people are willing to say so much about it when they understand so little.  Dr. Walter Williams offers a great primer via his weekly column.  Learn and enjoy…  Actually, you can print these all out, staple them together, read them and get a better economics education than 95% of the living world. 

Rasmussen reports that 49% of voters believe reporters will try to help Barack Obama win the presidency.  Odd, who would have ever guessed? 

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  1. do you know what the pew study defines ‘evangelical’ as? It’s a term that gets thrown around without much explanation a lot.
    The reason i ask is that Barna’s research looks like it’s poling a completely different America, giving a huge advantage to Obama among the same Christian circles that voted for Bush in ’04:
    http://www.barna.org/FlexPage.aspx?Page=BarnaUpdateNarrowPreview&BarnaUpdateID=300

    taddelay

    July 23, 2008 at 2:40 pm

  2. Some points on the Barna poll:
    1) His point on evangelicals is even more extreme than Pew’s. While Pew has the split as 61/25 for McCain, Barna has split as 78/9. Tad, am I missing your point?

    My point was that Obama at 25% is behind Kerry with 26% and Gore at 28%.

    2) The poll is from June 9. I believe that was during the Obama bounce.

    3) While he polled likely voters, his overall tally of Obama over McCain by 50% to 35% is total outlier.

    I don’t know Barna’s polling methods for presidential elections, but perhaps he should stick to what he knows.

    thismodernage

    July 23, 2008 at 4:53 pm

  3. sorry- i should have clarified what i was referring to. When barna says ‘evangelical’, he is talking about a very tiny subset of ‘born agains’ which is his subset of ‘christians’. When most people say ‘evangelical,’ that term corresponds closest to Barna’s term ‘born again’, a class that is switching to vote for Obama rather than McCain as it would have in the past. So i was referring to the more comon group of committed ‘Born Again’s’ which most people just call ‘evangelicals’, but i should have been more clear with my language.

    True, a month in politics can make a big difference. And Obama has slipped quite a bit.

    I don’t know his exact methods either, but his results are some of the most trusted and oft quoted. Are they less than deserving in your opinion?

    taddelay

    July 23, 2008 at 5:15 pm

  4. Sorry – where is any evidence of the switch of the ‘born again’ or ‘evangelical’ to Obama?

    Barna is great for surveying the Church and society. Polling for presidential elections is a different animal and given that Barna presents an extreme outlier to every other pollster, I’m not sure he is data is any good on this one.

    thismodernage

    July 23, 2008 at 5:20 pm

  5. it’s the 2nd paragraph of the “role of faith community” section:
    “The non-evangelical born again adults constitute 37% of the likely voters in November, and the notional Christians are expected to be 39% of the likely voters. Among the non-evangelical born again adults, 52% supported President Bush in 2004; yet, only 38% are currently supporting Sen. McCain, while 48% are siding with Sen. Obama. Although notional Christians voted for John Kerry in 2004 by an 11-point margin, that gap has more than doubled to 26 points in this year’s election.”

    I think it’s a really good thing that the political monopoly of the religious right on Evangelicals is fading, so that there can be very committed christians in both parties, advocating the different Kingdom values affirmed in each.

    taddelay

    July 24, 2008 at 2:37 am

  6. Well struck… I missed the parsing.

    thismodernage

    July 24, 2008 at 7:39 am

  7. Ouch!!!

    Keegan Sparks

    July 24, 2008 at 5:11 pm

  8. Keeg –

    Not a big deal… Like you so astutely pointed out, it’s not that I’m that smart, it’s just that I’m not that dumb. Mistakes do happen.

    But thanks for the support.

    thismodernage

    July 25, 2008 at 12:59 am

  9. Behind you all the way.

    Keegan Sparks

    July 25, 2008 at 6:07 am

  10. Williams is amazing, thanks for introducing him to me.

    Keegan Sparks

    July 25, 2008 at 5:06 pm

  11. Ilearned about Walter Williams at Hillsdale College. One of my econ professors was a student and partner of his. You would also enjoy Thomas Sowell. You might even make a decent economist.

    thismodernage

    July 26, 2008 at 8:00 am

  12. I have heard of Sowell and am a big fan. As for economist I’m not to sure.

    Keegan Sparks

    July 26, 2008 at 12:36 pm


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